The hon. Lady pre-empts a point I was going to make on page 5 of my notes, so I will take that bit out.

Again, the hon. Gentleman makes a good point, which was on page 5 of my notes.

Again, I ask the hon. Gentleman to be patient, because I will come on to all that.

If my hon. Friend wants to intervene again, he may, but it will eat into his own speech time.

My hon. Friend may well be right. One of my constituents is a health visitor.

That is a serious point; my hon. Friend is absolutely right.

This is the last intervention I will take, and I will finish shortly.

Earlier, I raised the contrast with social workers where there is a safeguarding issue.

I completely concur with my right hon.

I completely concur with my right hon.